Comments on: Ends and means http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/ A "good enough" mom muses about alpha moms, adoption, computers, the State Of The World, Internet quirkiness, and the Kosmik All Thu, 24 May 2012 13:51:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: carosgram http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19276 carosgram Sun, 25 May 2008 02:02:00 +0000 http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19276 What justification did they have for taking a newborn from her mother? This negation of basic individual rights is an abomination. We all know that foster care is not as good as being in a family and yet these children were not only taken from their mothers, they were separated from their siblings. Was this so they could be brainwashed by the State? Every tenent I have ever known about dealing with abused children goes against what they have done in this case. I hope that CPS gets sued by the FLDS big time. And I do not support the lifestyle that FLDS believes in, but if they can do this to them, what prevents them from taking our children? Who gets to decide whether we are raising them right? How many underage children do we hear about regualarly getting pregnant without the benefit of even a 'spiritual marriage" and yet their children are not taken from them? What about states where you can marry at 14 with parental permission? This is more about religious intolerance than it is about 'saving abused children'. What justification did they have for taking a newborn from her mother? This negation of basic individual rights is an abomination. We all know that foster care is not as good as being in a family and yet these children were not only taken from their mothers, they were separated from their siblings. Was this so they could be brainwashed by the State? Every tenent I have ever known about dealing with abused children goes against what they have done in this case. I hope that CPS gets sued by the FLDS big time. And I do not support the lifestyle that FLDS believes in, but if they can do this to them, what prevents them from taking our children? Who gets to decide whether we are raising them right? How many underage children do we hear about regualarly getting pregnant without the benefit of even a ’spiritual marriage” and yet their children are not taken from them? What about states where you can marry at 14 with parental permission? This is more about religious intolerance than it is about ’saving abused children’.

]]> By: noreen http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19176 noreen Fri, 23 May 2008 23:48:49 +0000 http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19176 As a social worker and someone who once worked in foster care/adoption I can only say AMEN to everything you you have written. I had a wonderful supervisor once who said foster care should only be a last resort, but my experiences were that if you were poor, or not in the economic/social mainstream, you were much more at risk of the state stepping and taking your children. As a social worker and someone who once worked in foster care/adoption I can only say AMEN to everything you you have written. I had a wonderful supervisor once who said foster care should only be a last resort, but my experiences were that if you were poor, or not in the economic/social mainstream, you were much more at risk of the state stepping and taking your children.

]]> By: Lisa http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19172 Lisa Fri, 23 May 2008 21:19:50 +0000 http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19172 I completely agree with you and have felt the same from the start. The experience those children have been through will be so life-altering they will never fully recover from it (remember that month in 2008 when we were ripped forcefully from the arms of our mothers and taken into a completely alien culture to live with strangers, unsure of when, if ever, we'd be allowed to go home?) There are certainly issues that need to be addressed within that compound, but taking 440 children away from their families is not the answer. I completely agree with you and have felt the same from the start. The experience those children have been through will be so life-altering they will never fully recover from it (remember that month in 2008 when we were ripped forcefully from the arms of our mothers and taken into a completely alien culture to live with strangers, unsure of when, if ever, we’d be allowed to go home?)

There are certainly issues that need to be addressed within that compound, but taking 440 children away from their families is not the answer.

]]> By: you know where you are with http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19169 you know where you are with Fri, 23 May 2008 15:34:40 +0000 http://omegamom.com/2008/05/23/ends-and-means/#comment-19169 I think the adoption angle you raise here is an apt one. And one I hadn't thought about 'til now, but you're so right. I think the adoption angle you raise here is an apt one. And one I hadn’t thought about ’til now, but you’re so right.

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